Aspera File Transfer

[Ron Wilson]

I am interested if anyone has had any experience with Aspera File Transfer
System. Its called FASP. Does it work as claimed? How does it work etc.
Any information would be helpful. Their web site is pretty bland as to how
it actually achieves the claimed speeds
Thanks

[Alexander Taler]

I am interested if anyone has had any experience with Aspera File Transfer
System. Its called FASP. Does it work as claimed? How does it work etc.
Any information would be helpful. Their web site is pretty bland as to how
it actually achieves the claimed speeds Thanks

I found this page pretty explanatory, perhaps I am more easily
satisfied. In brief, they are stripping away all of the TCP
overhead, which can be a severe bottleneck. Their claims ring
true to me.

http://www.asperasoft.com/en/technology/fasp_solution_3/the_fasp_solution_3

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[Ron Wilson]

Thanks for response. I was wondering how they manage to ensure what is sent
is what is received without the usual packet check/resend as that is what
seems to slow down ftp/http traffic the most. I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ and this system was recommended.
Just trying to find out what I can before we get to far advanced on
project.

Post by Ron Wilson

I am interested if anyone has had any experience with Aspera File

Transfer

System. Its called FASP. Does it work as claimed? How does it work etc.
Any information would be helpful. Their web site is pretty bland as to

how

it actually achieves the claimed speeds Thanks

I found this page pretty explanatory, perhaps I am more easily
satisfied. In brief, they are stripping away all of the TCP
overhead, which can be a severe bottleneck. Their claims ring
true to me.
http://www.asperasoft.com/en/technology/fasp_solution_3/the_fasp_solution_3
Alex
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[Stephen]

Possible relevant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDP-based_Data_Transfer_Protocol


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[Hadley Rich]

Post by Ron Wilson
I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ

Courier a disk.

[Steve Holdoway]

Post by Hadley Rich

Post by Ron Wilson
I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ

Courier a disk.

+1. Usually faster, and much, much cheaper.
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[Ron Wilson]

Disk Useless we will want this stuff down every day and it will run into
some big files we cannot afford to wait for disk. Also it is not point to
point it will be coming from the big studios on the West Coast USA to us.

Post by Steve Holdoway

Post by Hadley Rich

Post by Ron Wilson
I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ

Courier a disk.

+1. Usually faster, and much, much cheaper.
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[Matthew Diesch]

...And there's the answer. Damn my slow typing hands :-)

Post by Ron Wilson
Disk Useless we will want this stuff down every day and it will run into
some big files we cannot afford to wait for disk. Also it is not point to
point it will be coming from the big studios on the West Coast USA to us.

Post by Steve Holdoway

Post by Hadley Rich

Post by Ron Wilson
I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ

Courier a disk.

+1. Usually faster, and much, much cheaper.
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[Steve Holdoway]

Well, this is the method that Aardman Studios use ( well, used to use at
least as I've not checked up lately ), even though they had a dedicated
100Mbit connection.

Steve

Post by Ron Wilson
Disk Useless we will want this stuff down every day and it will run into
some big files we cannot afford to wait for disk. Also it is not point to
point it will be coming from the big studios on the West Coast USA to us.

Post by Steve Holdoway

Post by Hadley Rich

Post by Ron Wilson
I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ

Courier a disk.

+1. Usually faster, and much, much cheaper.
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[Ron Wilson]

Fair enough. The real problems is HD movies. They are getting so big and
when you have to download all your content (as most of the big studios are
insisting on only supplying via Internet) a few hours of content ever day
can quickly slow things down.hence the need for faster transfer system.

Post by Steve Holdoway
Well, this is the method that Aardman Studios use ( well, used to use at
least as I've not checked up lately ), even though they had a dedicated
100Mbit connection.
Steve

Post by Ron Wilson
Disk Useless we will want this stuff down every day and it will run into
some big files we cannot afford to wait for disk. Also it is not point to
point it will be coming from the big studios on the West Coast USA to us.

Post by Steve Holdoway

Post by Hadley Rich

Post by Ron Wilson
I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ

Courier a disk.

+1. Usually faster, and much, much cheaper.
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[Phillip Hutchings]

Post by Ron Wilson
Fair enough. The real problems is HD movies. They are getting so big and
when you have to download all your content (as most of the big studios are
insisting on only supplying via Internet) a few hours of content ever day
can quickly slow things down.hence the need for faster transfer system.

It doesn't matter how fancy your program is, you'll always be stuck with NZ's crappy international transit. Moving a disk will be easier, though depending on how frequently it may not be cheaper. You'd have to contact your ISP and see how much it'd cost for a dedicated connection with the bandwidth needed to transfer in a reasonable time.

Fedex can easily overnight a disk between NZ and US, probably $100 a pop though. It all depends on what it's worth to you.
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[Ron Wilson]

Unfortunately no choice there. Sony Warner Bros etc are not in business of
supplying product on disk. They want to supply over the net and that is
understandable in this day. They probably supply 100's of companies around
the world and the logistics of putting it on disk compared with pushing it
out into the Internet just do not compare.
Bandwidth is not really a problem yet I have 36 Mbs and we can push that up
as needed.

Post by Phillip Hutchings

Post by Ron Wilson
Fair enough. The real problems is HD movies. They are getting so big and
when you have to download all your content (as most of the big studios

are

Post by Ron Wilson
insisting on only supplying via Internet) a few hours of content ever day
can quickly slow things down.hence the need for faster transfer system.

It doesn't matter how fancy your program is, you'll always be stuck with
NZ's crappy international transit. Moving a disk will be easier, though
depending on how frequently it may not be cheaper. You'd have to contact
your ISP and see how much it'd cost for a dedicated connection with the
bandwidth needed to transfer in a reasonable time.
Fedex can easily overnight a disk between NZ and US, probably $100 a pop
though. It all depends on what it's worth to you.
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[Matthew Diesch]

Post by Steve Holdoway

Post by Hadley Rich

Post by Ron Wilson
I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ

Courier a disk.

+1. Usually faster, and much, much cheaper.

Maybe faster to get the entire amount but much slower to get the first
part.
So it depends on whether you need *all* the data before you can start
working with it or if you can start working as soon as the data starts
arriving.
The old quote was (something like) "never underestimate the bandwidth of a
stationwagon full of tapes doing 100mph down the freeway"



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[Ron Wilson]

It will be all movies so I guess that we will need all the product before we
can sue it

Post by Matthew Diesch

Post by Steve Holdoway

Post by Hadley Rich

Post by Ron Wilson
I am looking at moving 100's
of Gb traffic from USA West Coast to NZ

Courier a disk.

+1. Usually faster, and much, much cheaper.

Maybe faster to get the entire amount but much slower to get the first
part.
So it depends on whether you need *all* the data before you can start
working with it or if you can start working as soon as the data starts
arriving.
The old quote was (something like) "never underestimate the bandwidth of a
stationwagon full of tapes doing 100mph down the freeway"
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[Matthew Poole]

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Post by Ron Wilson
It will be all movies so I guess that we will need all the product
before we can sue it

heh. Nice Freudian slip you've got there, in the context of Big
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[Jaco]

Looks interesting - never seen this before.
I'm seeing POSIX candidates, but having difficulty locating licensing
information - is this commercial, freeware or FLOSS?

Post by Ron Wilson
I am interested if anyone has had any experience with Aspera File Transfer
System. Its called FASP. Does it work as claimed? How does it work etc.
Any information would be helpful. Their web site is pretty bland as to how
it actually achieves the claimed speeds
Thanks

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[Ron Wilson]

Commercial

Post by Jaco
Looks interesting - never seen this before.
I'm seeing POSIX candidates, but having difficulty locating licensing
information - is this commercial, freeware or FLOSS?

Post by Ron Wilson
I am interested if anyone has had any experience with Aspera File Transfer
System. Its called FASP. Does it work as claimed? How does it work etc.
Any information would be helpful. Their web site is pretty bland as to how
it actually achieves the claimed speeds
Thanks

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[Matt Cunningham]

We have owned a few different UDP file transfer products over the years, Aspera being just one of them.
The studios in the US change software with each new CTO...
They do work as advertised, we can ensure internet file transfers for our clients to anywhere in the world given the constraint of each end's connection.

We have a 1Gb Ethernet Internet connection throttled to 100Mb/s at the moment. Most of the studios we deal with in the US are 1Gb or 10Gb these days but some still use T3 (45Mb/s). We can send a 100GB file to the US in about 2.5 hours if we wanted to but given the timezone difference and for error handling we usually send a few 10GB files at 10Mb/s each and it only takes a few hours.

Obviously we offer this as a service if you are interested.

If you were interested, I have a long history in this process and have been sending large files over the internet for 10+ years.
We have used many ISPs and are currently with FX Netowrks.

We used to courier tapes/disks but for video dailies it's too slow these days...

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[Ron Wilson]

Thanks for that I am pretty sure we will end up going down the Aspera route
so was just getting what info I could. We also use FX among others and have
our own satellite connections as well. Time will no doubt tell if we have
choosen the right path <g>

Post by Matt Cunningham
We have owned a few different UDP file transfer products over the years,
Aspera being just one of them.
The studios in the US change software with each new CTO...
They do work as advertised, we can ensure internet file transfers for our
clients to anywhere in the world given the constraint of each end's
connection.
We have a 1Gb Ethernet Internet connection throttled to 100Mb/s at the
moment. Most of the studios we deal with in the US are 1Gb or 10Gb these
days but some still use T3 (45Mb/s). We can send a 100GB file to the US in
about 2.5 hours if we wanted to but given the timezone difference and for
error handling we usually send a few 10GB files at 10Mb/s each and it only
takes a few hours.
Obviously we offer this as a service if you are interested.
If you were interested, I have a long history in this process and have been
sending large files over the internet for 10+ years.
We have used many ISPs and are currently with FX Netowrks.
We used to courier tapes/disks but for video dailies it's too slow these days...
Regards
Matt Cunningham
MOB: [phone]
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
DIGIPOST
5 OWENS ROAD EPSOM AUCKLAND
PO BOX 99574 NEWMARKET, AUCKLAND 1149, NEW ZEALAND
T [phone] | F [phone]
WWW.DIGIPOST.CO.NZ
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[Matt Cunningham]

There is also Signiant, Fastsoft, Digital Fountain Raptor etc.
Faspex is fairly ubiquitous these days and I think that's what most people use.
Did you want to do a test?

Matt

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Thanks for that I am pretty sure we will end up going down the Aspera route
so was just getting what info I could. We also use FX among others and have
our own satellite connections as well. Time will no doubt tell if we have
choosen the right path <g>

Post by Matt Cunningham
We have owned a few different UDP file transfer products over the years,
Aspera being just one of them.
The studios in the US change software with each new CTO...
They do work as advertised, we can ensure internet file transfers for our
clients to anywhere in the world given the constraint of each end's
connection.
We have a 1Gb Ethernet Internet connection throttled to 100Mb/s at the
moment. Most of the studios we deal with in the US are 1Gb or 10Gb these
days but some still use T3 (45Mb/s). We can send a 100GB file to the US in
about 2.5 hours if we wanted to but given the timezone difference and for
error handling we usually send a few 10GB files at 10Mb/s each and it only
takes a few hours.
Obviously we offer this as a service if you are interested.
If you were interested, I have a long history in this process and have been
sending large files over the internet for 10+ years.
We have used many ISPs and are currently with FX Netowrks.
We used to courier tapes/disks but for video dailies it's too slow these days...
Regards
Matt Cunningham
MOB: [phone]
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
DIGIPOST
5 OWENS ROAD EPSOM AUCKLAND
PO BOX 99574 NEWMARKET, AUCKLAND 1149, NEW ZEALAND
T [phone] | F [phone]
WWW.DIGIPOST.CO.NZ
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[Ron Wilson]

No test needed at this stage but will keep it in mind Thanks for information

Post by Matt Cunningham
There is also Signiant, Fastsoft, Digital Fountain Raptor etc.
Faspex is fairly ubiquitous these days and I think that's what most people use.
Did you want to do a test?
Matt
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Thanks for that I am pretty sure we will end up going down the Aspera route
so was just getting what info I could. We also use FX among others and have
our own satellite connections as well. Time will no doubt tell if we have
choosen the right path <g>

Post by Matt Cunningham
We have owned a few different UDP file transfer products over the years,
Aspera being just one of them.
The studios in the US change software with each new CTO...
They do work as advertised, we can ensure internet file transfers for our
clients to anywhere in the world given the constraint of each end's
connection.
We have a 1Gb Ethernet Internet connection throttled to 100Mb/s at the
moment. Most of the studios we deal with in the US are 1Gb or 10Gb these
days but some still use T3 (45Mb/s). We can send a 100GB file to the US

in

Post by Matt Cunningham
about 2.5 hours if we wanted to but given the timezone difference and for
error handling we usually send a few 10GB files at 10Mb/s each and it

only

Post by Matt Cunningham
takes a few hours.
Obviously we offer this as a service if you are interested.
If you were interested, I have a long history in this process and have

been

Post by Matt Cunningham
sending large files over the internet for 10+ years.
We have used many ISPs and are currently with FX Netowrks.
We used to courier tapes/disks but for video dailies it's too slow these days...
Regards
Matt Cunningham
MOB: [phone]
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-

Post by Matt Cunningham
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[Jaco]

Been using rsync for what feels like forever (I'm starting to use it
rather than cp/mv), but just curios on other and/or better ways of doing
things:

zsync (zsync.moria.org.uk) looks like an interesting take on rsync.

Anyone have any great 'fu skills they'd like to share on this, or any
other standards/protocols/programs that'll make the best of my network
resources?

- J

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Post by Jaco
zsync (zsync.moria.org.uk) looks like an interesting take on rsync.

zsync is handy if you are tracking the progress of an Ubuntu
pre-release. Once you have the first alpha/beta/whatever ISO, zsync
makes it easy to update to the next/final image.
http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/oneiric/

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