Discussion:
TVNZ on demand
ant
2011-08-28 11:11:00 UTC
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I've tried to make this work for a while, but with no luck.
Symptom is that it sticks while starting with a window with a progress bar
stuck half way and says 'Initializing'.

I've tried with firefox, chrome, downloaded Flash, turned off flashblock,
adblock, noscript. Various kernels, routers and desktops. Currently
2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Jun 13 04:13:06 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
with trinity-KDE

First question: can somebody confirm that it is actually possible to get this
to work?

Secondly: is there a possible firewall problem? In other words, is a new
connection started that needs an iptables rule, possibly in the router?

Third: any suggestions?

cheers

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Xav Paice
2011-08-28 20:02:35 UTC
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Post by ant
I've tried to make this work for a while, but with no luck.
Symptom is that it sticks while starting with a window with a progress
bar
stuck half way and says 'Initializing'.
I've tried with firefox, chrome, downloaded Flash, turned off
flashblock,
adblock, noscript. Various kernels, routers and desktops. Currently
2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Jun 13 04:13:06 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
with trinity-KDE
First question: can somebody confirm that it is actually possible to
get this
to work?
I can at least do that - it works perfectly for me, Fedora 15 and Firefox 5, but I do have the 64 bit Flash plugin.
Post by ant
Secondly: is there a possible firewall problem? In other words, is a
new
connection started that needs an iptables rule, possibly in the
router?
I didn't check but would doubt it since corporates can get it working across a normal http proxy. Having said that, if you could run wireshark while starting a video you'd soon find out. Maybe you could try on a different network if it's a laptop?
Post by ant
Third: any suggestions?
Maybe you could try making a USB boot stick with your preferred distro and install a clean Flash plugin - 64 bit works for me but surely if that's OK the 'stable' 32 bit one on a 32 bit kernel should be perfect. If that all works, then you know it's your install somewhere rather than the software combo.


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Bruce Kingsbury
2011-08-28 20:13:52 UTC
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Post by ant
First question: can somebody confirm that it is actually possible to get this
to work?
No problems at all here; debian 6.0.2 (squeeze), firefox 6, flash
whatever (10.3?), adblockplus .. not using flashblock/noscript
Post by ant
Secondly: is there a possible firewall problem? In other words, is a new
connection started that needs an iptables rule, possibly in the router?
Third: any suggestions?
cheers
ant
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Nick Rout
2011-08-28 23:07:57 UTC
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Post by Bruce Kingsbury
Post by ant
First question: can somebody confirm that it is actually possible to get this
to work?
No problems at all here; debian 6.0.2 (squeeze), firefox 6, flash
whatever (10.3?), adblockplus .. not using flashblock/noscript
Post by ant
Secondly: is there a possible firewall problem? In other words, is a new
connection started that needs an iptables rule, possibly in the router?
Third: any suggestions?
I found I had to turn off adblock+ because it was blocking the ad that
precedes the video you actually want to watch, although I cannot
recall if this was the on demand site or just the videos on their news
page.

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Peter Robinson
2011-08-28 23:50:46 UTC
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Hi ant
Post by ant
First question: can somebody confirm that it is actually possible to get this
to work?
Works fine for me on 64-bit Ubuntu 11.04 without any extra tweaking.

Currently have:
Firefox 6.0 Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu - canonical 1.0 (not using adblock+)
flashplugin-installer version 10.3.183.7ubuntu0.11.04.1
kernel 2.6.38-11-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 19:02:55 UTC 2011
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Peter




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Philip Charles
2011-08-29 00:34:22 UTC
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Post by Peter Robinson
Hi ant
Post by ant
First question: can somebody confirm that it is actually possible to
get this to work?
Works fine for me on 64-bit Ubuntu 11.04 without any extra tweaking.
I have had similar problems on and off with Debian 6 and testing 64 bit.

I now use debian-multimedia for mutimedia packages and life is a lot
easier. I added
deb http://mirror.optus.net/debian-multimedia testing main non-free
to sources.list and installed flashplayer-mozilla
If you are using Debian 6 then change testing to stable above ;)

Debian-multimedia has a number of goodies, a kind of super non-free.

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ant
2011-08-29 04:18:25 UTC
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First off, thanks for all the suggestions.

Armed with the knowledge that it is possible, I tried another machine running
squeeze and got the same result. But more detailed examination revealed that
the flash player was crashing, and even more detailed examination revealed
that the flash player installed by default was actually gnash v9... (that
would make it a non-flash gnash crash, I suppose).

So I installed the real flash player, and it worked!

On to the other machine. This was running actual flash v10.3. And still not
working. But at least I now knew that it was not a firewall or network
Post by Philip Charles
I now use debian-multimedia for mutimedia packages and life is a lot
easier. I added
deb http://mirror.optus.net/debian-multimedia testing main non-free
to sources.list and installed flashplayer-mozilla
I installed flashplayer-mozilla, reloaded firefox/iceweasel a couple of times,
and got a result!

Great!

Next problem - both machines have old (on-motherboard) graphics systems - and
seem to do about 10fps in full-screen mode. Typical glxgears are 160 fps.
One is a Via S3 Unichrome Pro, which nobody seems to be able to make work very
well, and one is an ATI Radeon 9200 Pro.
Both were got in the days before video on demand was feasible. 57600bps made
for a slow movie experience in those days. But now we have broadband.

Suggestions for acceleration/upgrade/replacement, given that gaming is not
required, 'just' video?

cheers

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Nick Rout
2011-08-29 04:31:19 UTC
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Post by ant
First off, thanks for all the suggestions.
Armed with the knowledge that it is possible, I tried another machine running
squeeze and got the same result. But more detailed examination revealed that
the flash player was crashing, and even more detailed examination revealed
that the flash player installed by default was actually gnash v9... (that
would make it a non-flash gnash crash, I suppose).
So I installed the real flash player, and it worked!
On to the other machine. This was running actual flash v10.3. And still not
working. But at least I now knew that it was not a firewall or network
Post by Philip Charles
I now use debian-multimedia for mutimedia packages and life is a lot
easier.  I added
deb http://mirror.optus.net/debian-multimedia testing main non-free
to sources.list and installed flashplayer-mozilla
I installed flashplayer-mozilla, reloaded firefox/iceweasel a couple of times,
and got a result!
Great!
Next problem - both machines have old (on-motherboard) graphics systems - and
seem to do about 10fps in full-screen mode. Typical glxgears are 160 fps.
One is a Via S3 Unichrome Pro, which nobody seems to be able to make work very
well, and one is an ATI Radeon 9200 Pro.
Both were got in the days before video on demand was feasible. 57600bps made
for a slow movie experience in those days. But now we have broadband.
Suggestions for acceleration/upgrade/replacement, given that gaming is not
required, 'just' video?
I believe that there are versions of 32 bit flash player that support
hardware acceleration via VDPAU - ie proprietary nvidia drivers with
an nvidia 8xxx, 9xxx, 2xx or higher card.

However I believe adobe has left 64 bit linux users in the lurch, but
on 64 bit linux acceleration may be available via running firefox 32
bit version, or something like that.

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