10.10.10 launch

[Jaco van der Merwe]

Howdy,

This might seem a bit hot on the heels of the (pretty cool) SFD, but are there
any plans afoot for the upcoming Ubuntu Maveric Meerkat 10.10 on 10-10-10?
(references to 42 & Douglas Adams, etc aside)

http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/326/detail/
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/489

- J





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[Ian Beardslee]

Post by Jaco van der Merwe
Howdy,
This might seem a bit hot on the heels of the (pretty cool) SFD, but are there
any plans afoot for the upcoming Ubuntu Maveric Meerkat 10.10 on 10-10-10?
(references to 42 & Douglas Adams, etc aside)

It's a bit unfortunate that because of timezones and replication times,
it'll be 11-10-10 before we could do things like mini (or maxi)
installfests - that doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

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[Jaco van der Merwe]

Post by Ian Beardslee
It's a bit unfortunate that because of timezones and replication times

True, but based on past experience, the stable releases were not really
available (or very stable for that matter) until well after the proposed
release-dates. Servers tend to be pretty congested at any rate.
I think the last release (or the one preceding) still had a fair number of bugs
on-board when launched, and one should really consider the Y.M.1 release as
production-ready (well, that's my opinion at least).

Still 10-10-10 is a (sunny?) Sunday, & could still be nice, if only as a social
gathering.
Hope the release turns out OK.





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[Robin Paulson]

Post by Jaco van der Merwe
True, but based on past experience, the stable releases were not really
available (or very stable for that matter) until well after the proposed
release-dates. Servers tend to be pretty congested at any rate.
I think the last release (or the one preceding) still had a fair number of bugs
on-board when launched, and one should really consider the Y.M.1 release as
production-ready (well, that's my opinion at least).

yeah, i'd second that. i don't upgrade until at least a month after
release. too many problems - there are always dozens of fixes within
the first week or so

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[Steve Holdoway]

Post by Robin Paulson

Post by Jaco van der Merwe
True, but based on past experience, the stable releases were not really
available (or very stable for that matter) until well after the proposed
release-dates. Servers tend to be pretty congested at any rate.
I think the last release (or the one preceding) still had a fair number of bugs
on-board when launched, and one should really consider the Y.M.1 release as
production-ready (well, that's my opinion at least).

yeah, i'd second that. i don't upgrade until at least a month after
release. too many problems - there are always dozens of fixes within
the first week or so

As a general rule, I've found the .10 releases to be far poorer quality
than the .04 ones.

[Dave Lane]

Post by Steve Holdoway
As a general rule, I've found the .10 releases to be far poorer quality
than the .04 ones.

And with good reason... every other .04/.06 release has been the
culmination of another cycle of large change->lesser change->refinement
(x2)->consolidation towards the LTS releases. After each LTS, the Ubuntu
community allows larger increments of change, thus the .10 releases
following an LTS being a bit "fresher" than others.

Cheers,

Dave

[Tim Penhey]

Post by Robin Paulson

Post by Jaco van der Merwe
True, but based on past experience, the stable releases were not really
available (or very stable for that matter) until well after the proposed
release-dates. Servers tend to be pretty congested at any rate.
I think the last release (or the one preceding) still had a fair number
of bugs on-board when launched, and one should really consider the Y.M.1
release as production-ready (well, that's my opinion at least).

yeah, i'd second that. i don't upgrade until at least a month after
release. too many problems - there are always dozens of fixes within
the first week or so

Well, some of us poor suckers have to upgrade at beta time to knock out as
many of the bugs for everyone else.

Tim

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[Nevyn]

Post by Tim Penhey
Well, some of us poor suckers have to upgrade at beta time to knock out as
many of the bugs for everyone else.
Tim

And we thank you for it :)

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[Dave Lane]

Post by Robin Paulson
yeah, i'd second that. i don't upgrade until at least a month after
release. too many problems - there are always dozens of fixes within
the first week or so

I almost always upgrade a few days before the release as the final
release is normally just a tag change on a few key packages like the
ubuntu-desktop - 90% of packages don't change otherwise between the
release candidates and the final release, so it's only a relatively
small update to be at final release level.

Interesting to hear about people's problems with slow servers... I've
never had issues of congested servers on release day. I think the
Debian/Ubuntu distribution infrastructure is remarkably robust.

Cheers,

Dave

[Bruce Kingsbury]

I grab the nightly build a couple of days ahead, and the last few
ubuntu versions it's always been md5-identical to the final release.

Post by Robin Paulson
yeah, i'd second that. i don't upgrade until at least a month after
release. too many problems - there are always dozens of fixes within
the first week or so

I almost always upgrade a few days before the release as the final release
is normally just a tag change on a few key packages like the ubuntu-desktop
- 90% of packages don't change otherwise between the release candidates and
the final release, so it's only a relatively small update to be at final
release level.
Interesting to hear about people's problems with slow servers... I've never
had issues of congested servers on release day. I think the Debian/Ubuntu
distribution infrastructure is remarkably robust.
Cheers,
Dave
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[Jim Tittsler]

Post by Bruce Kingsbury
I grab the nightly build a couple of days ahead, and the last few
ubuntu versions it's always been md5-identical to the final release.

And the availability of zsync nowadays (and jigdo in yesteryear) has
made it quick to update when its not.

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