Discussion:
using arbitrary windows drivers within linux
Robin Paulson
2010-12-10 01:34:05 UTC
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i recall some years ago reading about the ndiswrapper for loading
proprietary windows drivers under Linux, thus allowing a lot of
wireless cards to work under that OS

does the concept extend to any other hardware types? are there any
projects for loading say windows soundcard drivers under linux?
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Robin Paulson
2010-12-10 01:38:55 UTC
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i recall some years ago reading about the ndiswrapper for loading
proprietary windows drivers under Linux, thus allowing a lot of
wireless cards to work under that OS

does the concept extend to any other hardware types? are there any
projects for loading say windows soundcard drivers under linux?
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Nick Rout
2010-12-10 01:46:56 UTC
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Post by Robin Paulson
i recall some years ago reading about the ndiswrapper for loading
proprietary windows drivers under Linux, thus allowing a lot of
wireless cards to work under that OS
does the concept extend to any other hardware types? are there any
projects for loading say windows soundcard drivers under linux?
I don't believe so, but then again alsa has drivers for many many
sound cards - which one are you interested in or having troubles with?

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Robin Paulson
2010-12-10 01:51:26 UTC
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Post by Nick Rout
I don't believe so, but then again alsa has drivers for many many
sound cards - which one are you interested in or having troubles with?
i checked the alsa compatibility list already, and it's not supported
- it's a yamaha ds2416, aka dsp factory. it's a few years old, but
very powerful and pretty pricey, so i'm not keen on ditching it.
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Nick Rout
2010-12-10 04:03:41 UTC
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Post by Robin Paulson
Post by Nick Rout
I don't believe so, but then again alsa has drivers for many many
sound cards - which one are you interested in or having troubles with?
i checked the alsa compatibility list already, and it's not supported
- it's a yamaha ds2416, aka dsp factory. it's a few years old, but
very powerful and pretty pricey, so i'm not keen on ditching it.
Indeed it looks flash. have you tried a live distro to see what it
sees re the card?

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Robin Paulson
2010-12-13 21:26:40 UTC
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Post by Nick Rout
Post by Robin Paulson
i checked the alsa compatibility list already, and it's not supported
- it's a yamaha ds2416, aka dsp factory. it's a few years old, but
very powerful and pretty pricey, so i'm not keen on ditching it.
Indeed it looks flash. have you tried a live distro to see what it
sees re the card?
it's unknown, nothing recognises it. and in response to Eliot: yes,
it's more accurately a 16-input, 8-buss mixing-desk, with EQ, effects
and internal routing. hence my reticence to chuck it out

i've been thinking about some other options, perhaps some of you could
offer some advice?

the card is well-supported by windows, and i was considering the idea
of running two OSs, and pipe the data between the two using jack [1]
over a network connection.

what would be the most likely way for this to work? virtualising
ubuntu within windows looks obvious but is out. if i virtualised
windows within ubuntu, would windows see the card (i.e. get hardware
level access to it?), or does ubuntu need to understand the card, and
pass it on through some abstraction layer/dummy driver?

or are there any other options (beyond the obvious one of building two
separate machines)?

[1] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit

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Eliot Blennerhassett
2010-12-10 08:13:27 UTC
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does the <ndiswrapper> concept extend to any other hardware types? are there any
projects for loading say windows soundcard drivers under linux?
No.

Also, by the looks of it the dsp factory is no ordinary sound card,
and its features would not be available via the usual windows APIs
anyway.

Given that the card has been discontinued for about 10 years, and (i
guess) there is no detailed data for it, there will never be an ALSA
driver for them.
It has 5 Yamaha DSP processors on it, for which firmware would be
required, and knowledge of how to communicate with the firmware.


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