Discussion:
fedora to centos upgrade?
Steve Holdoway
2010-11-24 20:10:34 UTC
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Has anyone done this? I've got a remote server that I've just taken
over, and some idiot has built it on Fedora! Taking it out of production
is no problem, but access is difficult if anything goes wrong with the
upgrade.

I'll take all precautions I can think of - like a failover fed 7 kernel
for grub, but experiences of others would be gratefully received (:

Cheers,

Steve
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Philip Charles
2010-11-24 20:31:17 UTC
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Post by Steve Holdoway
Has anyone done this? I've got a remote server that I've just taken
over, and some idiot has built it on Fedora! Taking it out of
production is no problem, but access is difficult if anything goes
wrong with the upgrade.
I'll take all precautions I can think of - like a failover fed 7 kernel
Cheers,
Steve
Fedora tends towards bleeding edge, Red Hat, hence CentOS, is
conservative. So they will have a number of incompatabilities. I would be
_very_ wary of trying to "upgrade" from one to the other.

Phil.
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Steve Holdoway
2010-11-24 20:45:40 UTC
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Post by Philip Charles
Post by Steve Holdoway
Has anyone done this? I've got a remote server that I've just taken
over, and some idiot has built it on Fedora! Taking it out of
production is no problem, but access is difficult if anything goes
wrong with the upgrade.
I'll take all precautions I can think of - like a failover fed 7 kernel
Cheers,
Steve
Fedora tends towards bleeding edge, Red Hat, hence CentOS, is
conservative. So they will have a number of incompatabilities. I would be
_very_ wary of trying to "upgrade" from one to the other.
Phil.
Absolutely. I'd like to shoot the 'admin' who installed a production
server on it. Maybe I should wait for CentOS 6 and hatch a cunning plan
in the meantime...
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Jon @ RossLUG/ELLUG
2010-11-24 20:41:43 UTC
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Hi Steve,
it is possible however depends what version of Fedora you are currently
running.
I'm guessing you are running Fedora 7?

The problem you have there is RHEL/Centos 5.5 is based on Fedora 6, so
effectively you won't be upgrading but downgrading. The latest RHEL 6 is
based on Fedora 12 so you will be able to update to that using YUM,
although you would probably need to go via fedora 8,9,10 and 11. You may
find this difficult though as I think 8 and 9 are now out of support.

Probably worth installing 7 on a spare box and trying it though.

Out of curiosity what is this box running, and what is your issue with
it running Fedora?

Cheers

Jon
Post by Steve Holdoway
Has anyone done this? I've got a remote server that I've just taken
over, and some idiot has built it on Fedora! Taking it out of production
is no problem, but access is difficult if anything goes wrong with the
upgrade.
I'll take all precautions I can think of - like a failover fed 7 kernel
Cheers,
Steve
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Steve Holdoway
2010-11-24 21:00:43 UTC
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On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 20:41 +0000, Jon @ RossLUG/ELLUG wrote:
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Post by Jon @ RossLUG/ELLUG
Out of curiosity what is this box running, and what is your issue with
it running Fedora?
Cheers
Jon
A Fedora desktop OS has a support lifespan of 6 months, RHEL/CentOS is 5
years. I have no way of keeping this server secure as the patches aren't
( "officially" ) available.

This is the core of the problem - apache, ssh, php, clamav and many more
cannot be properly supported.

Sure it was great when installed - pretty toys and all. But that was
then, and now I'm completely stuffed without going back to the dark ages
of compiling from source - which really should not be necessary in this
day and age for a mainstream web server.

Steve
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Jon @ RossLUG/ELLUG
2010-11-24 22:15:25 UTC
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Yeah fair one!
might be worth pointing yum at centos 5.5 repositories including EPEL,
RPMForge and UtterRamblings to see what will actually be picked up for
update.

if you want me to send you the repo files for the above just shout.

Jon
Post by Steve Holdoway
[snip]
Post by Jon @ RossLUG/ELLUG
Out of curiosity what is this box running, and what is your issue with
it running Fedora?
Cheers
Jon
A Fedora desktop OS has a support lifespan of 6 months, RHEL/CentOS is 5
years. I have no way of keeping this server secure as the patches aren't
( "officially" ) available.
This is the core of the problem - apache, ssh, php, clamav and many more
cannot be properly supported.
Sure it was great when installed - pretty toys and all. But that was
then, and now I'm completely stuffed without going back to the dark ages
of compiling from source - which really should not be necessary in this
day and age for a mainstream web server.
Steve
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David Pando
2010-11-24 21:40:34 UTC
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Post by Steve Holdoway
Has anyone done this? I've got a remote server that I've just taken
over, and some idiot has built it on Fedora! Taking it out of production
is no problem, but access is difficult if anything goes wrong with the
upgrade.
I'll take all precautions I can think of - like a failover fed 7 kernel
I think I did it in the past using some post I found in the internet, it was
something like just setting the CentOS repositories, install some CentOS
"branding" packages , yum upgrade and pray. I don't think I have the stones
to do it in a production server though :( Sorry for being so vague, but
memory it's not my strong point
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